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the

southern

cross

on

a

white

blue

sky

of

a

rainy

dusk

cold

wind

from

the

south

sucks

heat

from

my

cheeks

zen

and

sitting

are

senseless !

the

southern

cross

on

a

white

blue

sky

of

a

rainy

dusk

gusty

cold

wind

from

the

south

zen

and

sitting

are

senseless !

the

real

estate

charming

should

be

translated

a

s

dingy

dive

witha

apaint

job !

it's

better

to

bite

what

is

unsatisfactory

and

live

with

it

than

persue

the

illusion

of

satisfactory -

ness

and

have

it

blow

up

on

you !

the

editing

is

a

pain

inthe

arse

and

keeps

me

from

hubris !

what

you

are

good

at

and

find

interesting

and

what

pays

are

two

totally

different

things

oh

happy

he/she

who

can

unify

them !

 : o )

my

job

demythologizing

sainthood

CHRIST !

:

o

(

)

“ Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscrib'd ”

Hell hath limits and is circumscrib'd

infinities

radiance

permeates all

don't  get too

depressed

: o )

“ Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscrib'd ”

Hell hath limits and is circumscrib'd

infinities

radiance

permeates all

a

koan

“ does

buddha

get

old ? ”

c

r

o

a

k .....................

:

o

)

(

maitreya

is

not

human

all

the

statues

are

wrong !

if

you

detect

hubris

in

yourself

leave

it

if

you

detect

hubris

leave

it

“mr. voynich prison”

enlightenment is being partly out of the prison, we never get completely out and actually as you get older health issues can be a prison more complete than the old one !

a

word

of

advice

i'd

just

forget

the

"self"

vocabularly

it's

not

helpful

“ For 75 years, scholars have suspected that Jesus is a copycat [Hellenized] Buddha ”

imo

this

map

(ed. 1/6th of the way down)

says

it

all

religion

is

intellectual

property

and

easily

transferrable

and

people

are

not

very

original

basically

easier

to

copy

than

work

something

out !

anonymous

a

big

step

forward

would

be

to

say

why

you

can't

have

your

real

identity

on

this

blog

you

don't

have

to

give

everything

away

but

indicate

why !

it

would

be

cathartic

for

you

break

down

the

shell

walls

of

the

encasing

prison

you

have

built

yourself

into !

let's

call

being

enlightened

or

holy

not

being

a

hypocrite

or

personally

inconsistent!

not

so

glamorous

but

truer !

see !

“Andrew's Dad said...

Gay wad eater.

You are NOT real.

“You” are a figment of your own imagination.

You are a fictional character in a make believe world.”

look, go right back to the beginning, like you are not my father, whose being fictional ?

until you are not afraid to be yourself on this board you are just pissing in the wind?

you are just going around in circles stuck on this problem of having to fake yourself on here (ed. the hardcore zen blog)

for

god's

sake

anybody

with

half

a

brain

can

see

this !

do

the

old

stories

have

replies like

“ gay

wad

eater? ”

where

are

you

in

hell

being

munched

on

by

hungry

demons

why

not

walk

out

of

the

cave ?

the

catholic

church

is

shooting

itself

in

the

head

with

a

machine

gun

with

pope

benedict !

the

catholic

church

is

shooting

itself

with

a

machine

gun

with

pope

benedict !

our

condition

is

basically

error

you

can

call

that

enlightenment

or

holiness

but

it

doesn't

make

sense

and

is

just

a

perpetuation

of

the

same

problems !

our

condition

is

basically

error

you

can

call

that

enlightenment

or

holiness

but

it

doesn't

make

sense

and

is

just

a

perpetuation

of

the

same

old

problems !

some

real

zen

in

the

style

of

the

old

stories

and

koans

( minus

the

voynich! )

and

you

all

run

like

bloody

rabbits

don't

you !

btw

voynich

doesn't

mean

bullshit

but

bullshit

disguised

as

sense

with

a

certain

competentcy

which

i

guess

you

may

aspire

to !

“ Maitreya said...

It's time for me to appear and clear shit up. This is out of hand.”

just

the

usual

anonymous

fiction!

i

am

real

and

not

a

fiction

which

you

all

know

which

is

why

you

get

upset !

so

sorry

there's

no

enlightened

state

for

you

to

retreat

to

but

actually

none

of

you

have

got

to

first

base

anyway !

i'm

not

100

miles

ahead

but

a

million

miles

in

all

directions !

"As for enlightenment both Gudo and Brad have stated that it's no big deal - fireworks for your zen flavored ego."

i was looking at a video of brad's talk in germany last night and was interested to see his approach about god,that is buddhism and christianity are roughly equivalent which i agree with

so enlightenment roughly equals holy

i'm not saying there are no enlightenment experiences or visions of god so to speak

but

there's

no

enlightenment

or

holiness you

could

argue

the

poet

wang

wei

was

enlightened

but

even

so

there's

a

shortfall !

it's

just

too

difficult

and

death

delivers

it

anyway

as

regards

gudo

and

brad

i'm

going

to

pull

rank

as

the

SEVENTH

PATRIARCH !

an

enlightenment

experience

or

“ seeing

god ”

changes

you

and

y

o

u

c

a

n

'

t

ever

fit

again !

at

last

i

understand

what

pessoa

was

doing

writing

that

voluminously !

:

o

)

(

when

i

look

at

the

hardcore

zen

blog

i

get

“ compressed ”

so

i

have

to

decompress

it

by

writing

it

out

if

i

don't

look

i

don't

have

to

decompress

it !

but

the

compression

decompression

cycle

does

something

takes

one

further

but

it

can

be / is

too

much

 sometimes 

the

hardcore

zen

blog

i

think

it's

losing

it's

productivity

then

brad

warner

perhaps

not !

the

future  !

everything

for

tomorrow

lol  !

it's

going

to

be

better

:

o

 )  (

i

am

at

home

anywhere

that

doesn't

shoot

me

even

if

it's

only

because

their

powder

is

wet,

the

bullets

fragmented

or

they

can't

hold

the

rifle

to

shoot

straight !

half lotus

and

full

lotus

is

not

good

too

restrictive

of

circulation

if

your

leg

is

going

to

sleep

or

you

are

getting

pins

and

needles

on

standing

it's

not

good  !

you

are

disetablished !

that

doesn't

mean

you

are

not

disetablished  !

you

are

disestablished  !

it's

really

hard

to

get

things

can

go

wrong

for

35

years

or

so

and

then

get

back

on

track

once

the

other

pieces

are

in

place !

obviously

being

wrong

never

bothers

you !

“ i

am

intimately

aquainted

with

jetlag ”

“ i

am

intimately

aquainted

with

cancer ”

god

i

just

hate

writing

heaps !

in

other

words

for

you

there

is

a

you

you

are

not

enlightened

what

is

called

jetlag

is

actually

circadian

rhythm

maladjustment !

religions

subtle

and

complex

systems

of

deceit !

so

is

marriage !

religions

subtle

and

complex

systems

of

deceit !

there

is

no

such

thing

as

enlightenment

it

is

a

non-existant

ideal

which

cannot

occur

in

reality !

there

is

such

a

thing

as

enlightenment

it

is

an

existant

ideal

which

can

occur

in

reality !

larry

eigner

dead

a

friend

across

the

generations

and

centuries  !

larry

eigner

dead

a

friend

across

the

centuries

and

generations  !

that

is

well

written

and

thought -

out

you

would

have

to

be

absolutely

clueless

which

i

guess

you

are !

i

could

be

retarded

or

i

could

be

exceptionally

able !

i

wonder

if

anyone

even

the

saints

were

holy

it

is

just

too

difficult

that

is

they

were

just

men

and

women

with

certain

inclinations

propensities

and

realizations   !

it's

important

to

understand

that

enlightenment

and

holiness

cannot

ever

occur

they

are

just

too

difficult

it's

important

to

understand

that

enlightenment

and

holiness

cannot

occur

they

are

just

too

difficult

it's

important

to

understand

that

enlightenment

cannot

occur

it

is

just

too

difficult !

sitting

is

not

primary

what

is

primary

is

collection

recollection

reflection

and

weighing

these

are

the

processes

that

are

important

i

think

lying

down

is

primary

religions

have

complex

roots

of

formation

like

christianity

was

informed

by

buddhism

to

a

surprising

extent

through

pre

C. E.

buddhist

influences

in

greece

the

middle

east

and

egypt

which

later

evolved

into

gnosticism !

why

is

it

i

feel

dogen

and

basho

weren't

enlightened

but

wang

wei

was?

holy

is

a

fine

idea

rather

than

reality !

it's

like

a

lot

of

math

equations

really

you

factor

in

a

lot

of

terms

and

come

up

with

answers

and

conclusions !

i

think

enlightenment

is

like

holy

a

nice

idea

but

it

just

doesn't

and

can't

happen

in

practice !

i

don't

think

it's

possible

for

anybody

to

be

holy

or

enlightened

so

jesus

and

buddha

are

absolute

bloody

nonsense

and

i

guess

i

have

deregistered

all

the

christian

saints

as

well

as

all

the

buddhas

pity

about

john

of

the

cross

but

i

feel

he

comes

out

better

for

it !

so i am saying that enlightenment is just not possible and by extension jesus and buddha never existed but hui-neng could have !

so

i

really

could

be

the

seventh

patriarch

i

am

abit

gobsmacked

but

i

suppose

it's

not

really

a

big

deal !

w

h

a

t

c

h

o

u

t

z

e

n

!

enlightenment

is

a

pack

of

cards !

enlightenment

is

a

card

house

you

can

have

an

enlightenment

experience

and

it's

20

to

40

to

60

years

to

start

to

make

sense

of

it !

i

don't

know

that

it's

practical

or

possible

to

become

“ enlightened ”

and

observation

and

history

rather

bears

me

out

on

this

one !

enlightened

people

are

arbitrary

and

flawed

constructs !

like

holy

in

the

christian

tradition

i

suppose !

“ why

is

the

world

a

nightmare ? ”

“ because

it

bloody

well

is ”

:

o

)

why

is

the

world

a

nightmare

because

it

bloody

well

is

:

o

)

what

i

write

is

pretty

deconstructive

people

just

don't

like

to

think

about

life

that

way !

sitting

is

not

primary

it's

the

solitude

and

recollection

and

reflection !

zen

sitting

is

basically

a

monastic

monk

management

technique

suckers !

western

buddhism

has

become

the

abode

of

busy

body

utilitarians !

sharks

even

gummy

ones

the

only

way

you

can

recover

yourself

is

to

stop

feeding

them !

tasmania

social

skills

of

a

fried

gnat

:

o

)

social

skills

of

a

fried

gnat

:

o

)

i

wonder

if

i

could

have

7th

patriarch

put

on

my

tombstone?

“ you

won't

have

a

tombstone ! ”

it

  breaks

     your

         heart

       what

     you

are

good

at

 to

   be

     worth


    nothing !

larry

eigner

friend

:

o

)

this board (ed. hardcore zen blog comments) has been amazing for me, really sorted out and improved my grasp of some areas that i am weak and and also am strong in, it can be and actually has been the same for some of you if you approach it the right way, like “ what has this to teach me? ”

suicide and taking someone with you is often the case

so many screw ups in life yet there are talents

what's easy and one is good at one doesn't rate

sometimes

people

can

be

so

smart

they

fool

themselves !

sometimes

people

can

be

so

smart

they

fool

themselves !

i'm

doing

so

much

writing

if

it

were

making

money

it

would

be

understandable

but

it's

not

so

it's

not

understandable !

a

little

rule

of

posting

is

to

write

not

to

“ right

the

world ”

but

to

write

to

benefit

yourself

by

working

and

thinking

something

through !

posting

is

basically

self

educating

process

and

you

can

see

those

who

progress

and

those

who

don't !

from dylan thomas's  “poem in october”

“ And over the sea wet church the size of a snail

With it's horns through mist and the castle ”

and

“ the knock of sailing boats on the net webbed wall ”

notice how visual that  poem  is and also that dogen was a very visual writer when he wasn't writing voynich !

it's the visual processing that's the straight line to infinity and why zen sitting if it locks you up facing a wall is so wrong, the absence of those remediating “ snail horns though the mist ”

funny how you can feel something to dylan thomas's writing, jumps out at you again like those snail horns

“ And I saw in the turning so clearly a child's    

Forgotten mornings when he walked with his mother

Through the parables

Of sunlight

   And the legends of the green chapels ”

all

activity

is

utterly

futile

so

is

no

activity

:

o

)

(

all

activity

is

utterly

futile

so

is

no

activity

:

o

)

even

just

to

read

my

stuff

frightens

people

because

it

draws

them

into

a

level

of

deconstruction

they

are

not

used

too !

“ a blog post back or two there were people here (ed. brad warner's hardcore zen blog) practically BEGGING Brad to ban Andrew. ”

years ago i was on a a particularly rough and violent ug krishnamurti board and a dutchman there (who hated ug krishnamurti, i think he was a jk fan) couldn't stand me, but since ug himself was such a rough diamond they couldn't in all conscience kick me off, but the dutchman had lent money to the message board owner so he put the “hard word on”, the owner actually closed the board rather than betray his principles which was fair enough i suppose !

this

dutch

man

paid

me

the

highest

compliment

of

my

life

“ i

was

worse

than

ug

krishnamurti! ”

everything

is

destroyed

before

it's

started !

if

you

are

going

to

sit

half

a

lifetime

or

a

lifetime

of

half

or

full

lotus

or

even

seiza

all

you

are

going

to

get

is

half

or

a

full

lifetime

of

half

or

full

lotus

or

seiza !

slouch

in

a

chair

occasionally

and

you

are

going

to

get

more !

i

suppose

that's

what

religion

is

about

really

the

illusion

of

doing

something

useful

and

it's

all

a

bloody

waste

of

time

you

cannot

sustain

the

illusion

of

doing

something

useful

and

be

open

all

sitting

is

about

is

solitude

sitting

is

something

that

arose

a

s

a

cheap

way

of

keeping

monks

occupied

and

in

their

place !

life

is

this

constant

process

of

being

mistaken !

walt

whitman

transendental

wanking !

the

notion

of

heaven

is

intrinsically

atheist

if

there

is

god

why

would

you

bother

with

heaven ?

it's

not

my

fault

i'm

a

genius

in

fact

i

don't

think

there's

any

risk

of

overstaying

any

such

ability !

: o )

it's

not

my

fault

i'm

a

genius

in

fact

i

don't

think

there's

any

risk

of

overstaying

such

ability !

: o )

let

us

shed

a

l

i

t

t

l

e

t

e

a

r

for

the

horizontal

outwitted

by

t

h

e

v

e

r

t

i

c

l

e

e

r

let's

shed

a

l

i

t

t

l

e

t

e

a

r

for

the

horizontal

outwitted

by

t

h

e

v

e

r

t

i

c

l

e

e

r

it's

not

that

zen

teachers

are

obscure

but

they

have

learnt

the

art

of

what

i

call

voynichese

that

is

they

have

learnt

the

art

of

rattling

off

bullshit

as

though

it

means

something !

it's

not

that

zen

teachers

are

obscure

but

they

have

learnt

the

art

of

what

i

call

voynichese

that

is

they

rattle

off

bullshit

as

though

it

means

something !

a

lie

is

neither

white

nor

hot

but

a

lie

for

the

trouble

it

brings

or

not !

a

lie

is

neither

white

nor

hot

but

a

lie

for

the

trouble

it

brings

or

avoids !

a

lie

is

neither

white

nor

hot

but

a

lie

for

the

trouble

it

brings

or

doesn't !

“ Voynichation said...

and

how

love

them

i

without

like

a

dipped

spun

likeness

a

junk

moon

inflated

in

hot

white

lies? ”

“ Voynichation said...

and

how

love

them

i ”

awww

you

sweet

little

bodhisattva

rip

their

guts

and

hang

them

out

to

dry

i

do !

:

o

)

buddhist thought informed the greek way back before C.E.

gummy

sharks

gummy

teeth

shriveled

hands

and

a

walnut

brain

how

pathetic !

gummy

sharks

gummy

teeth

shriveled

hands

a

walnut

brain

how

pathetic !

i

think

he

actually

understood

something

and

it

frightened

him!

tho

that

reply

to

“ the

horizontal

autist ”

was

a

tour

de

force

and

undeniable

genius !

roll

on

the

fish

oil

and

folapro!

rattled

him

can't

believe

it

i

have

rattled

anonymous !

: o )

talking

with

the

sharks

lol

you

are

not

so

dangerous

gummy

teeth

and

a

mismatched

jaw !

don't tell me i have pricked your rhinocerous hide

: o )

you

bring

out

the

best

in

me !

“ The Horizontal Autist

and how can i

say your tongue

conspiring hug when

these leaves tend

the oak’s hand apart

and how could i

figure you

in what wasps

skirt the militant

cupped air with

and how turn i

to secret clue-

scented rooms where

eyes tilt shields

but mime them

and how love them

i without like

a dipped spun likeness

a junk moon inflated

in hot white lies? ”

beautiful

voynich

tongue

conspiring

wasps

of

the

junk

moon !

endless

inflation

of

idiocy

now

that

sounds

real !

the sharks

the

anonymous

sharks

that's

for

sure

just

stop

feeding

them

thanks

charles

good

advice !

i've had a bit of a think about anonymous posters, there's no reason not to have a web identity unless you are trying to hide something

in real life you avoid people of this character as just plain trouble so i think that's also a good strategy on this message board

i wouldn't be replying to anyone without a nick and even then i reserve my right ! slow but steady wins the race

“ if you respond, could you cut out the personal abuse parts.”

you

mean the yellow belly anonymous posting?

so

much

for

the

warrior zen spirit

mean spirited and face hiding

you anonymous posers can claim any thing in the bullshit you write but people who deliberately hide things intend to deceive so you are known already i am afraid

i think i have such a bad opinon of your ratbags i am not replying to any anonymous posts or those i that don't have a consistent identity

wank on you bastards

endless

the

nammering

of

ninny's !

(ed. nammer is a portmanteau of yammer, mumble and numble !)

in

general

people

don't

like

to

think

at

all !

in

general

people

don't

like

thinking

at

all !

i

like

anonymous

posting

because

it

tells

me

whose

the

rat

bags !

i

can't

believe

how

tangled

you

guys

are

your

brains

are

spiders

webs

you

can't

read

straight

just

look

at

it

what

is

it

saying ?

the

sphinxes

are

just

hyped

up

pet

cats

:

o

)

the

sphinxes

just

hyped

up

pet

cats

:

o

)

the

sphinx

is

just

a

hyped

up

pet

cat

:

o

)

sex

women

like

it

how

much

they

get

is

a

different

question

:

o

)

if

you

are

posting

anonymously

you

are

cringing

full

of

fear

and

cowardice

too

afraid

to

be

yourself

no

wonder

you

can't

think

straight !

if

you

like

sex

you

want

to

be

a

young

lesbian

:

o

)

what good is zen if you don't see anything of life and just have a bunch of politically correct attitudes to feel your way with ?

a pathetic overconfidence that leads to cringing cause they are so used to real life disasters when they veer tinily into different worlds

anonymous posting is cringing and do i have to tell you why?

eileen writes:

   isn't acceptance supposed to b a big part of zen not that i know really

my

reply

 is the pope humble?

zen is just full of hypocrisy like every religion

adi

da

mrs.

baker

eddy

:

o

)

language

is

not

just

contemporary

use

but

the

whole

span

of

human

history !

christian

science

transcendentalism

mixed

with

christianity

:

o

)

i

am

of

the

opinion

that

i was

given

something

by

the

sixth

patriarch

existant

or

non

existant !

all

these

young

women

it's

like

they

are

walking

around

with

this

huge

magnet

they

certainly

know

the

power

of !

“ i think the problem that lesbians have    

is that sex is so accessible

they spend their lives in a frenzy of lust

  and there's a stupidity that follows from that ”

“ what did you mean by that? It sounds like you are saying lesbians are stupid. ”

what i said was that there a stupidity that comes from that which is VERY different from saying lesbians are stupid !

sex and lust are blinding or don't we know !

cause there's no drag of reproduction or male sexual fatigue they don't have any brakes !

i

am

not

in

any

way

homophobic !

tai

chi

is

a

good

paradigm

for

message

boards

and

blog

comments

it's

just

that

yielding

to

get

the

other

person

off

balance

and

then

slamming

them

:

o

)

“Andrew: If you were really original you would use one word per post. Think of it. Your name on every word. 30 posts to make one sentence. Even Dogen didn't have the balls for that..”

but i am really original, my  poetry and homilies  and  health writings  are unique!

i don't have to chase anything

there'd be half a million words, most written by me on my web site, do you know how many 1/2 a million is,

s

t

a

r

t

c

o

u

n

t

i

n

g !

:

o

)

when

you

criticize

something

it's

good

to

do

something

a

bit

better

in

the

same

vein

if

you

know

what

i

mean

then

you

won't

come

so

adrift

:

o

)

“ Andrew, "school marm"?

Really?

This is right up there with Brad's "foodstuffs".

You guys are soooooo 19th century! ”

or

we're

twenty-

first

and

ahead

of

you!

it's

called

an

“ archaic

reference ”

and

done

for

emphasis

with

a

strong

element

of

ridicule

and/ or

scorn!

“'could think of it like zazen, just allow thoughts to come and go, without trying to push them away.'

gudo says to stop them.”

there's no-one to allow thoughts to come and go so where would there be sitting or some-one stopping them ?

the

sky

is

full

or

the

sky

is

empty - san

in

three

hundred

years

people

will

be

claiming

lineage

from

the

7th

patriarch

it

has

come

right

with

me

and

will

go

wrong

again !

we

know

you

can

read

and

we

know

you

can

write

just

put

some

thinking

and

reflection

inbetween !

real

male

male's

and

female

females

they

are

sorta

dumb !

“ My behavior was not exemplary, in my estimation the rudest thing was posting an image of Jekyll & Hyde in a response to something that Jundo had written. ”

adhd

oppositional

defiant

gender blurring

autism

aspergers syndrome

schizophrenia

psychosis

mental retardation

genius

perseveration

rigidity

this

is

what

zen

has

always been

when

you

see

that

in

yourself

you

don't

judge !

“ ykiurhmws

eetlseuio

sttd,mlsi

?hebiaahf

inetstty

slwwteoo

,iroeteu ”

now

that's

good

it's voynich-ese

so

much

of

zen

is

like

that

you

project

the

asssumption

of

sense

onto

nonsense !

compare

with

“ the

hunting

of

the

snark ”

which

is

sense

clothed

in

nonsense !

 “ I'm amenable to open-mindedness and worthwhile change. Are you? ”

ok

so

i'm

being

trolled

i

don't

pretend

not

to

be

a

sucker

for

wankers !

“ horizontals

are

for

squares

and

voynich

voyeurs ”

show me some zen writing that was not originally vertical, i don't mean modern western trash!

i write alot of   poetry  and sorta homilies/philosophy, that's where it comes from and there are a few writers who write like this, but your idea of english is limited to what the “school marms” have taught you so you think of english as being a certain way !

you lot still think shakespeare wrote shakepeare and not sir henry neville and take the opinions of the mass as right !

just

bumpkins really

but zen has always been literarily sophisticated

the

real

zen

that

is

cling

to

your

ignorance

it's

only

going

to

keep

you

that

way !

you

think

you

can

do

zen

by

“ just

sitting ”

and

not

reading

the

huge

range

of

material

available

like

this

well

it

doesn't

work !

you

can

scream

all

you

like

it

works

but

it

still

doesn't

just

compare

jundo

with

pierre  tesuten

dogen

was

basically

a

writer

you

need

to

write

too

it

takes

writing

AND

solitude

“ just

sitting ”

doesn't

work

and

never

has

and

if

you

read

the

ch'an

patriarchs

they

warn

against

the

“ ghost

cave ”

of

sitting

i

think

why

you

don't

like

the

vertical

writing

is

you

have

to

stop

and

think

cause

each

word

is

weighed

and

clear

and

what

you

really

want

to

do

is

just

skim

over

it

and

not

take

it

in

like

you

have

been

doing

all

you

life

with

anything

of

sense !

can

i

tell

you

again

dogen

and

all

the

chinese

and

japanese

patriarchs

wrote

vertically

another

inconvenient

fact

“ andrew,

would you mind writing in horizontal sentences like everyone else? i'm asking you to please do so. thanks. ”

hi  “ fake diana white ”

(ed. nick of the quoted author)

i'm

real

and

not

like

everyone

else

so

what

do

you

expect ?/!

“ So anyway, that Jundo really seems unstable and egotistical. ”

it

takes

one

to

know

one

the

answer

is

not

in

denying

this

in

ourselves

but

seeing

it

and

slow

changes

come

from

that !

“ so you are saying that talking about zen is voyniching, and the words create the same conditions that zen is attempting to see through? ”

now this is your problem, you are not being careful enough, just rushing in and taking what you think was said

my

words

were

“ bad

voynich

translations ”

and

i

actually

retranslated

that

dogen

quote

i'm

not

going

to

carry

you

it's

all

the

same

you

want

something

for

free

without

doing

any

work

well

if

you

don't

do

the

work

you

won't

get

anywhere

will

you

btw

this work is

at

least

until

age

related

dementia

hits !

a

lifetime

process !